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#1
I was actually wondering about the "alleged" illegal gambling. I recall members posting a justification for it: raising money for charity. I'll have to see if I can find mention of that.

April 20: Special Counsel Raids Police Over Unification Church Cover-Up (The Chosun Daily)

QuoteThe comprehensive special counsel announced that they conducted raids on the National Police Agency, Gangwon Provincial Police Agency, and Chuncheon Police Station from the morning of that day. It was reported that the special counsel sent prosecutors and investigators to secure materials related to the suspicion of covering up the investigation into the Unification Church's overseas gambling case.

The suspicion of covering up the Unification Church investigation centers on the fact that the Chuncheon Police Station, despite obtaining intelligence in June 2022 that Unification Church leader Han Hak-ja and other executives gambled an amount worth 6 billion Korean won at a Las Vegas casino in the U.S. from 2008 to 2011, did not conduct an investigation. It was also confirmed that the Unification Church side, having prior knowledge of the related content, destroyed evidence and prepared for the investigation.
#2
April 7, 2026: Religion & State Authority: What Happens When Religious Freedoms Clash With Child Safety? (ICSA Today)

QuoteA significant hurdle in prosecuting these cases is the tendency of some scholars and religious groups advocating to dismiss former members as "biased apostates." This classification often results in victim testimony being given less weight than the statements of group leaders. When reports of abuse are framed as attacks on religious freedom rather than human rights violations, the actual physical harm done to children is frequently downplayed or ignored.
#3
I decided to provide of lists of books about North Korea I have read and plan to read one day. In 2015, I embarked in something of a North Korea readathon!

Nov. 2013: Tears of Blood: A Korean POW's Fight for Freedom, Family, and Justice by Yoo Young-bok


I had the pleasure of meeting Mr Yoo at a talk he gave at my university. Whenever I tell anyone his story, I have to fight back tears.

Reviews:

2013: Tears of Blood: A Korean POW's Fight for Freedom, Family, and Justice
#4
"Ken" One of my former students was a North Korean soldier for 10 years - the length of North Koera's mandatory military service, and he certainly shared some fascinating anecdotes into that life.  While reflecting on my time spent with him - and why the hell haven't I been better at keeping in touch? I decided to look for articles that explore facets of those ten years.  He is interviewed in this article, as is my other long-term student before Covid, Sharon. I was there the days Sharon and Ken were interviewed to give some moral support. That was over 10 years ago? Wow.

May 20, 2015: North-Korean Refugee Forced Work Coal Reveals Journey (John Power for The Daily Mail)

QuoteThe famine in North Korea may be over, but poverty and hunger remains rife. More than a quarter of North Korean children are chronically malnourished, according to U.N. data, and the country's economy is roughly one fortieth the size of South Korea. And serving in the military was no guarantee of a meal at the end of the day.

One former soldier - another of the defectors who gather together in Seoul -  describes being constantly hungry during his 10 years of military service, which finished in 2010. The man, who goes by 'Ken' and doesn't want his face shown out of fear for his safety, says his meals in the army often consisted of little more than a small cup of rice and pickled radish. ... Despite years in the military, the earlier defection of his mother and brother left him blacklisted from work. 'I was always rejected because my mother and brother were missing,' he said. 'I could not even get a job that had much lower requirements than my skills and qualifications.'

I took a photo of the interview:


Ken was interviewed for this piece:
March 2, 2018: A North Korean's Unexpected Challenges in the South: Learning the Language & Ditching the Accent (CBC News)

QuoteThrough his years in the military, Eom was loyal to the regime, even after watching fellow soldiers get crushed under steel beams during forced construction projects in Pyongyang.

April 12, 2024: Young North Koreans Are Taking Pains to Avoid Military Service (Daily NK)

More articles will of course be posted when I have the time and inclination....
#5
2026

Jan. 22: North Korean Defections to South Korea Remain Low Years After COVID-19 Pandemic (Stars & Stripes)

QuoteThirteen fewer North Koreans defected across the southern border in 2025 than the year before for an annual tally of 223, according to recent data from South Korea's Ministry of Unification. Of those, 198 were women and 25 were men, a ministry spokeswoman told Stars and Stripes.

Still, the number of defectors making their way to South Korea the past three years is about one-fifth of those who defected prior to the COVID-19 pandemic, according to numbers the spokeswoman provided. The pandemic lasted from March 2020 to May 2023, according to the World Health Organization. Before the pandemic, more than 1,000 people defected from North Korea annually, according to the ministry's statistics. Since then, an average of 200 have made their way south each year, the spokeswoman said. ...

March 28: I Escaped North Korea wWth my Mum. Now I'm Terrified She Might Be Sent Back (BBC)

QuoteIn response to a question from the BBC, the foreign ministry in Beijing said China was a country "ruled by law".

"Illegal immigrants are not refugees. China has always maintained a responsible attitude, adhering to domestic and international law, and handling these matters appropriately in the spirit of humanitarianism," the statement added.
#6
2025

The fact that I've neglected this thread for the past six years is a good a sign as any that I took a long and I think needed break from all of this - North Korea/South Korean cults etc. I also stopped volunteering with Teach North Korean Refugees, now called Freedom Speakers International, when Covid hit, and regretfully, I've yet to return to that although I keep in touch with some of my former students, one of whom has released a book which I will soon read. I was with Sharon the day this interview was conducted to offer some moral support. We're going to meet up soon, and I am so looking forward to catching up. Back to the topic with a video I just stumbled upon. And I hope one day soon to dig up and post articles published between Feb. 2020, the most recent article currently posted before this post, and today - March 31, 2026.

May 30: North Korean Defectors Struggle to Adapt to New Life in South Korea (France 24 English)

#7
2019

Sept.: A Defector's Journey (State Magazine)

QuoteAccording to a 2017 survey conducted by the Korea Hana Foundation, which provides educational and other support to North Korean defectors, the majority of North Korean defectors are of middle- and high-school age. The Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) extols the virtues of its educational system, including boasting a literacy rate of 100 percent, but a 2017 "Foreign Policy News" report indicates that 16 percent of North Korean class time is dedicated to studying political thought, which includes the propaganda-heavy history of Chairman Kim Jong Un and his family. While not as blatant as political thought classes, other subjects, such as math and English, also incorporate praise for the DPRK leadership: sample sentences from English textbooks proclaim Kim Il Sung's generosity and Pyongyang's beauty. Moreover, students who escape North Korea must put their education on hold, sometimes for many years. To reach the South, most defectors flee through China, where they are considered illegal immigrants and are subject to repatriation. When students who have defected try to pick up where they left off in South Korea, many find that they are far behind their classmates.

English—present in many aspects of South Korean life, from mandatory language classes beginning in elementary school to increasingly common loanwords—is a major barrier to defectors, including students, looking to build a life in the South. In public schools, defector students, who may become the targets of bullying, already face significant challenges adjusting to their new lives and school environment. Data from the South Korean government highlight the effects of an interrupted education on North Korean defector students. The high school dropout rate for North Korean defector students in 2018 was 2.5 percent, significantly higher than the 2018 dropout rate of 0.9 percent for South Korean students overall. Prominent commentators and South Korean NGOs that work with defectors attribute this outcome to the difficulties many defectors experience in trying to keep up with South Korea's fast-paced curriculum while simultaneously dealing with the social challenges accompanying defection.

Sept. 2: ROK Government to Establish Comprehensive Measures to Guarantee Social Stability of North Korean Defectors (Ministry of Unification)

Sept. 21: She Fled NK for a Better Life - She Died With Her Young Son in Seoul (CNN)

QuoteWhen defectors reach South Korea, they are given 8 million won ($6,704) cash. Two-person households also get unconditional welfare support of 870,000 won ($729) per month for six months, less than the country's average median income for a two-person household, which is 2.9 million won ($2,430).

Still, many defectors – like Han – struggle to find employment. A survey last year by South Korea's Unification Ministry of more than 25,000 defectors found their rate of unemployment is 2.9% higher than South Koreans. Almost 60% of those surveyed said that childcare obstructed their ability to gain employment.

Dec. 2: NK Defectors Caught in Vietnam Face Risk of Deportation (The Korea Herald)

2020

Jan. 29: North Korean Would-Be Defectors Arrested in Emergency Operation Near China Border (Radio Free Asia)

Jan. 30: Seven Out of Fifteen North Korean Would-Be Defectors Arrested in Emergency Operation (The Union Journal)

Feb. 17: Former North Korean Diplomat's Smartphone Hacked Presumably by North Korean Group (The Korea Times)

2021

Jan. 27: Number of North Korean Defectors Drops to Lowest Level in Two Decades (CSIS)

2023

July 20: Beijing 'Actively Enables' Trafficking of North Korean women, Girls (The Korea Times)

Aug. 6: Why Are Over 70% of North Korean Defectors Female? (The Korea Times)
#8
2018

Jan. 2: Only One NK Defector Settled in US Last Year - Lowest Since 2006 (The Korea Times)

Feb. 18: Defector Arrested for Sending Rice to Pyongyang (Yonhap News)

Feb. 22: Two Decades After Being Sold as Bride, NK Woman Finds Salvation in Seoul (NBC News)

March 2: A North Korean's Unexpected Challenges in the South: Learning the Language & Ditching the Accent (CBC News)

QuoteHis Northern inflection struck his co-Koreans as foreign, a telltale sign that also led to problems in the South. "I could understand maybe 70 per cent" of the Korean conversations on the streets of Seoul, Eom, 37, said recently in an interview at an English school in the South Korean capital. "But on the different side, the South Koreans couldn't understand me! They couldn't understand our language."

Aug. 2: North Korean Women have Been Escaping to the South... But What Happens When Hope Leads to Disappointment? (Ann Babe for California Sunday Magazine)

Aug. 5: I Have Arrived in South Korea. Now What? (2) (The Korea Times)

Nov. 1: Lack of Women & Girls in China has Helped Create a Thriving Market For Trafficked Girls & Young Women from Neighbouring Countries (Thomson Reuters Foundation)
#10
This was what I was wondering about when I posted the earlier links. If behavior is illegal in family settings/intimate relationships, why would it then not be illegal within larger groups of people?

March 31, 2026: If My Boyfriend Did What My Pastor Did, I Believe Police Could Investigate (The Guardian)
#11
Feb. 29, 2020: "월급 받으면 OO할게요"..'신천지 회사' 직원들은 맹세했다! (Naver/KBS)

Translation Available Here:
Feb. 29, 2020: Kim Nam-hee Was Convicted... But Was Shincheonji An Unaware Victim? (Reddit)

Dec. 10, 2020: 한때 동거 이만희·김남희..법정에서 원색적 비난 (CBS)


QuoteOnce cohabitation Lee Man-hee and Kim Nam-hee... criticized in court

Lee Man-hee and Kim Nam-hee, who once lived with Shincheonji's No. 1 and No. 2, criticized the opponent in court as defendants and witnesses.

In his final statement, Lee Man-hee, who is on trial for violating the infectious disease prevention law and embezzlement, claimed that 90 percent of Kim Nam-hee's words were false.

Kim Nam-hee stated in a previous trial as a witness that Lee Man-hee, the head of the Shincheonji branch, received money in return.

Reporter Yoo Young-hyuk reports.

The final trial of Shincheonji's religious leader Lee Man-hee, who is on trial for violating the infectious disease prevention law and embezzlement, was held at the Suwon District Court on the 9th.

In his final statement, Lee Man-hee, the leader of the church, once criticized Kim Nam-hee, who lived with him as the second-in-command of Shincheonji.

The religious leader stated, "90 percent of Kim Nam-hee's words are lies, and those who lie are demons."

He also handed over the embezzlement charge to Kim, saying, "Kim Nam-hee asked me to open a bank account, so I made a bank account, but I don't know where I spent the money."

The religious leader claimed that he had experienced Kim Nam-hee for nearly 20 years, but Kim betrayed her.

Earlier, Kim Nam-hee, who appeared as a witness in this trial on the 25th of last month, severely criticized the leader Lee Man-hee.

Kim Nam-hee launched a barrage of criticism, saying that the religious leader was sucking the blood of Shincheonji believers.

Kim also said, "I couldn't meet religious leader Lee Man-hee without money in the Shincheonji organization, which is a one-man dictatorship," adding, "I witnessed frequent payments of checks and cash by believers, including local governors."

Lee Man-hee and Kim Nam-hee were once seen living together at the Palace of Peace and other villas in Gapyeong, Gyeonggi Province, as the No. 1 and No. 2 Shincheonji.

However, in 2017, Kim Nam-hee disappeared from the Shincheonji event and the religious leader Lee Man-hee attacked Kim Nam-hee as a apostle

Since then, the two have been engaged in litigation, including a lawsuit for the return of shares of a cable TV production company owned by Shincheonji, following a dispute over ownership of real estate worth billions of won.

Kim Nam-hee filed a complaint with the police against religious leader Lee Man-hee on charges of embezzlement of funds from Shincheonji in March, when the number of COVID-19 confirmed cases from Shincheonji surged.

Meanwhile, the prosecution demanded a five-year prison term and a fine of 3 million won for Lee Man-hee, saying, "The nature of the crime is very poor, ignoring the public authority and interfering with epidemiological investigations and quarantine activities."

A sentencing hearing for the leader will be held at the Suwon District Court on January 13 next year.
#12
2016

Jan. 1: For Refugees, What Happens After Escape? (Yahoo News)

Feb. 5: 30,000 North Korean Children Living in Limbo in China (The Guardian)

Feb. 19: North Korea Ordered Assassination of Defector (The Korea Times)

March 8: South Korea's Coffee Shop for Defectors (BBC with Alex Jensen!)

March 8: Most North Korean Refugees Are Women - Here's Why (Liberty in North Korea)

March 27: North Korean Defector Criticises China in Rare Beijing Talk (Yahoo News)

March 31: Q&A: Hyeonseo Lee on North Korean Defectors in China (The New York Times)

April 4: They Flee North Korea, Only to be Adrift in the South (AP)

April 12: Number of Defectors up 17.5%on-year in Q1 (The Korea Times)

April 20: Lee So-Yeon Speaks Out For NK Female Defectors (The Korea Times)

April 26: How Our Society Forces a Fixed Identity on North Korean Defectors (Hankyoreh)

May 13: Life as a North Korean Refugee (Hyeonseo Lee for The New York Times)

June 9: NK Defector Completes S. Korean Military Service (The Korea Times)

June 21: New programs help defectors from North Korea adjust, shed stigma (UPI)

Aug. 1: Defectors Suffer From Low Social Status in South (Korea JoongAng Daily)

Aug. 18: For elite North Korean Defector, a Job & Bodyguards Await in South (Reuters)

Aug. 18: Trafficked, Enslaved & 'Without Hope' in China (News Deeply)

Aug. 23: NK Said to be Dispatching Hit Teams to Kill Defectors (The Asahi Shimbun)

Aug. 24: N. Korea dispatches defector kidnapping agents to China (DongA Ilbo)

Oct. 18: She Fled NK, Turned to Online Sex Work & Escaped Again (Washington Post)

Nov. 5: Defector Becomes First North Korean to Join ROTC (Korea JoongAng Daily)

Nov. 9: Statistics Highlight Abuse of NK Women in China (Chosun Ilbo)

Nov. 14: Number of Defectors Exceeds 30,000 (Chosun Ilbo)

Nov. 28: Gov't to Increase Benefits for NK Defectors (Chosun Ilbo)

Dec. 7: Defector Finds Freedom in Daughter (Korea JoongAng Daily)
#13
Nov. 21, 2021: New Religious Movement Responses to COVID: Frame Alignment Strategies & Social Context (Benjamin Zeller/Research Gate)

This essay quotes Kim Do-hyun (a former member I met a few times when he was a member) from the CNN piece linked below that includes an embedded video. He's not just any former member, he was Lee Man-hee's translator and held senior roles given that proximity to Lee. As a member of a cult whose members lie and use deceptive practices to recruit, I found him to be the exception that proves the rule. I would take anything he says sans grains of salt.

Feb. 27, 2020: How Novel Coronavirus Spread Through the Shincheonji Religious Group in South Kore (CNN)

Quote'The culture was, even though you're sick you come in on Sunday. If you're so sick you can't come Sunday, youhave to come on Monday or Tuesday– you have to make up for the time,'Kim says. He describes how, whenhe was a member, followers would siton the floor during hours-long ser-vices 'packed together like sardines'.(CNN)

QuoteEx-members' accounts must be read with suspicion, and subjective claims such as being 'packed like sardines' reveal as much about anti-Shincheonji media bias as they do actual practices, but the pattern described here, even in its most basic claims, shows why Shincheonji norms were conducive to the spread of the virus.

I don't see why member accounts must be read with suspicion, especially in this case as what he describes as "packed together like sardines" is shown in the video. Not of course in the literal sense of bodies upon bodies, but it's pretty close to the human equivalent.

If anything should be read with suspicion - and a bowl of salt, it's this bolded quote from earlier in the piece:

QuoteKim and Bang indicate that opponents have compared thegroup to the Islamic State, marking Shincheonji's totalistic vision of world transformation as inherently threatening to the social order. The scholar of new religions Massimo Introvigne argues that opposition to Shincheonji may be traced to a more mundane complaint: its rapid growth came at the expense of the more mainstream churches, which responded by demonizing the group and labelling it as a marginal religious movement.
#14
I've only watched some of part 3, but this is really interesting and insightful. And I really appreciate summaries of some parts of the book I had forgotten, and those are combined with her own experiences. This is the kind of video that I wish all members would watch and those who support the UC through ignorance or greed:

March 30, 2025: 1. In the Shadow of the Moons - Faith Yün Commentary


April 6, 2025: 2. In the Shadow of the Moons - Faith Yün Commentary


April 13, 2025:3. In the Shadow of the Moons - Faith Yün Commentary


About Faith:
Quotefaith yün is a former second generation Moonie, born into the Unification Church. Since leaving the Moon organization in 2012 she has become an atheist and gone no-contact with both of her parents and most of her childhood friends. In 2022, after the assassination of former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe by former UC member Tetsuya Yamagami, faith dropped out of college and forfeited her conditional acceptance to transfer to UC Davis for a bachelor's degree in Anthropology. She is now spending all of her time helping herself and others recover from financial abuse and coercive control, using social media to expose widespread disinformation about the cult that raised her.
#15
Jan. 22, 2026: Escaping a Cult: Leaving the Moonies Unification Church with @FaithY3n (The Truth That Heals Podcast)


QuoteGuest Bio:
"faith yün is a former second generation Moonie, born into the Unification Church. Since leaving the Moon organization in 2012 she has become an atheist and gone no-contact with both of her parents and most of her childhood friends. In 2022, after the assassination of former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe by former UC member Tetsuya Yamagami, faith dropped out of college and forfeited her conditional acceptance to transfer to UC Davis for a bachelor's degree in Anthropology. She is now spending all of her time helping herself and others recover from financial abuse and coercive control, using social media to expose widespread disinformation about the cult that raised her."

So many quotes worth noting:

21:03
QuoteThere were parents in Beaverton Oregon who would have gladly adopted me and like gotten me out of the moonies if I had shown any inkling of wanting to leave but because the unification church is such a physically, financially, emotionally, and sexually abusive organization that is built on honor and uh aggressively showing your loyalty to your doctrine and your leader. I could not show even like the tiniest amount of doubt or I was going to have a very bad time.

YouTube Comment by @subliteral:
QuoteI used to work at Manhattan Center for awhile during the period  @FaithY3n describes , when several bombshells exploded in the UC community. A good handful of these involved bizarre and corrupt behavior by Rev. Moon's children that destroyed every illusion that they were good people in any way. @FaithY3n 's experience reminded me that the 2nd gen had no shielding from the impact of this corruption , no long years of training to accept the unacceptable. Many of them publicly questioned and resisted the abuses in the church , and I could see the fear this generated in older members. They raised issues OG members had long buried & denied in their heads , and were not ready to openly resist.

July 19, 2022: Fascism in The Moonies Cult/UC - A Chat With 2nd Gen Survivors (Faith Yün)